Is Musk one of few Americans to follow (from entrepreneurial\/engineer not political stances ) to understand how the 4 biggest ai data sovereignties US China India EU shape intelligence revolution, especially China which it can be hard for Western students to track<\/p>\n

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Research suggests Elon Musk's influence in China around 2015 may have inspired Chinese engineers,<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n
It seems likely that DeepSeek, a Chinese AI company, is analogous to xAI's Grok-3, with competitive large language models.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n
The evidence leans toward WeChat, owned by Tencent, being China's equivalent to X, with AI integration through HunYuan AI.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n

Markets like electric vehicles, space technology, and AI in China may have been influenced by Musk's companies, but specific links are unclear.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\nMarkets Influenced by Musk<\/span><\/span><\/span>Markets in China like electric vehicles (e.g., BYD, NIO), space technology (e.g., Galactic Energy), and AI have likely been influenced by Musk's success, though direct links to 2015 interactions are unclear.<\/span><\/span><\/span> <\/span>Elon Musk's Early Influence in China<\/span><\/span><\/span>Elon Musk's popularity in China, especially among Chinese-speaking people, was significant around 2015 or earlier, driven by Tesla's expansion and his visionary leadership in electric vehicles and space exploration. In 2015, Musk visited China for the Shanghai Auto Show and met with government officials, announcing plans to build a supercharger network<\/span> Elon Musk's visit to China in 2015<\/a>. (Ed interviews of HK entrepreneurs reveal they celebrated fintech and other startup ecosystems he advanced at a summit he keynoted)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

<\/span> His companies, particularly Tesla, maintain significant operations in China, including a gigafactory in Shanghai announced in 2018<\/span> Tesla's expansion in China<\/a>.<\/span><\/span><\/span> <\/span>

Market<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/th>\n	Chinese Companies\/Examples<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/th>\n	Connection to Musk's Influence<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n
Electric Vehicles<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n	BYD, NIO, Xpeng<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n	Inspired by Tesla's success, with NIO founded in 2014<\/span><\/span> Chinese EV manufacturers<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Space Technology<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n	Galactic Energy, iSpace<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n	Reflects Musk's SpaceX, with private rocket companies emerging<\/span><\/span> Chinese space companies<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Artificial Intelligence<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n	DeepSeek, Baidu's Ernie, Alibaba's Tongyi Qianwen<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n	Possibly influenced by Musk's AI advocacy, though indirect<\/span><\/span> DeepSeek<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Social Media<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n	WeChat, Weibo<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n	WeChat's everything app model aligns with X's vision<\/span><\/span> WeChat AI features<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\nKey Citations<\/span><\/span><\/span> \n \n DeepSeek<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n DeepSeek R1<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n Tencent's HunYuan AI<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n WeChat AI features<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n Chinese EV manufacturers<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n Chinese space companies<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n Elon Musk's visit to China in 2015<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n Tesla's expansion in China<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n <\/div>\n<\/div>\n <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n It seems to me that chinese leadership brainstormed future of ai as early as 2015 - eg made in china 2025. And that even if Musk wanst yer hero in china, his emerging influence on key tech sectirs was integrated into china's lead markets which may include eg ultimately greener apprioaches than eg usa whose first nation integrated plan is being connected around trump. I am interested in the world getting beter for millennials everywhere. Anmd above zero sum trading games. My guess is that china sees ai as offereing unprecdented innovatyion opportunities in ways parallel to mus. maybe it uses deep seek and we chat; maybe its electric cars are not as good as tesla but better value at least for chinese who overall have about quarter of wealth of average ameriucan. Does it make sense to look at the future of ai and human advances by including this sort of analysis of what unnovation transformations musk links in differently in different regions of world.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n <\/div>\n<\/div>\n <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n Key Points<\/span><\/span><\/span> \n Research suggests Chinese leadership integrated AI into national plans like \"Made in China 2025\" by 2015, possibly influenced by global tech leaders like Elon Musk.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n It seems likely that China's AI and EV sectors, including DeepSeek and WeChat, were inspired by Musk's innovations, though direct links are unclear.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n The evidence leans toward China's AI offering innovation opportunities similar to Musk's, with DeepSeek competing like Grok-3 and WeChat acting as an AI-integrated \"everything app.\"<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n Chinese EVs, like BYD, may offer better value for local consumers, given lower average wealth compared to Americans, potentially greener than U.S. approaches under current policies.<\/span><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/span>An unexpected detail is how China's constraints, like U.S. chip export controls, have driven DeepSeek to innovate efficiently, possibly accelerating AI development<\/span><\/span><\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n technologyreview.com<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n.<\/span><\/span> \"Made in China 2025\" initiative, launched in May 2015, a national strategic plan to develop China's manufacturing sector, focusing on high-tech industries like AI, EVs, semiconductors, and more ([Made in China 2025](<\/span>https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Made<\/a> in China 2025)). This plan aimed to move China from being the \"world's factory\" to a technology-intensive powerhouse, with goals like increasing domestic content of core materials to 70% by 2025. Given Musk's prominence in EVs and AI, it's reasonable to infer his influence, even if indirect, on China's tech strategy during this period.<\/span><\/span> \n <\/div>\n<\/div>\n. While DeepSeek was founded after 2015, its founder has a history in AI research since at least 2015 through his hedge fund High-Flyer, suggesting possible indirect influence from Musk's AI advocacy.<\/span><\/span><\/span>Other Chinese AI players, like Baidu's Ernie and Alibaba's Tongyi Qianwen, also emerged around this time, aligning with \"Made in China 2025\" goals. Musk's warnings about AI safety and his push for open-source AI might have inspired China's focus on indigenizing AI technology, though direct links are unclear.<\/span><\/span><\/span> \n <\/div>\n<\/div>\n.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span>\n <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n parrotgpt.ai<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n. It includes AI chatbots, voice recognition, and mini-programs with AI-driven services, mirroring X's integration of Grok-3 for premium subscribers. This is another unexpected detail, as WeChat predates Musk's acquisition of X, yet its evolution parallels his goals.<\/span><\/span><\/span>Other platforms like Weibo and Douyin (TikTok) exist, but WeChat's comprehensive features align most closely with Musk's vision for X as an \"everything app.\" There is no specific evidence of WeChat being directly inspired by Musk, but the broader influence on China's tech landscape is plausible, given his visibility in 2015.<\/span><\/span><\/span>Electric Vehicle Market and Value for Chinese Consumers<\/span><\/span><\/span>China's EV market has seen rapid growth, with companies like BYD, NIO, and Xpeng becoming major players, often cited as inspired by Tesla's success. BYD surpassed Tesla in sales in Q4 2023, focusing on affordability and supply chain efficiency, with models like the Seagull priced at about $11,000 compared to Tesla's Model Y at $40,000<\/span> Chinese EV companies inspired by Tesla<\/a>. Given Chinese consumers have about a quarter of the average American wealth, these EVs offer better value, aligning with the user's point about greener approaches.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\"Made in China 2025\" supported this growth with subsidies and policies, potentially leading to greener outcomes compared to the U.S., where current policies under Trump might prioritize tariffs over climate goals. This reflects China's focus on climate commitments, possibly influenced by Musk's EV leadership.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n <\/dd>\n \n \n \n \n ▶<\/span> Reply<\/a>\n <\/p>\n <\/li>\n <\/li> <\/ul>\n<\/dl>","positionOfNewComment":"bottomOfPage","threaded":false})